Revised Laughing Wounds Style

hiruma_karasu:

Most of the high end social charms have maybe at max a five temporary willpower point cost in order to resist.

The Demented One:

Know the Soul's Price, Memory-Reweaving Discipline, or Joy in Ownership.

I always forget about those charms. Especially Know the Soul's Price since I don't use investigation unless I am playing a super-sleuth.

Well I guess then its okay as a pinnacle charm but now that I think of it maybe I can write a martial arts that utilizes the Sorcerous keyword.

A Primordial martial arts. Something apart from Infernal Monster Style...

Quick to the Thinking Chair!

I am still reading it, good job as always TDO.

The Demented One:

Kiss of the Whip

Why i had the impression that wound penalties apply to your MDV either way?

Very nice; definitely saving this for later use.

The Demented One:

Sensuous Torment

Bonus WP should be tactically limited in application in some fashion and probably not permanent, at that point you can stop worrying about this thing opening up self-abuse as a tool for beancounting

The Demented One:

Kiss of the Whip

This charm seems written under the assumption that wound penalties don't already apply to MDV. I'm pretty sure that wound penalties apply to MDV by default. (yes I know that's dumb.)

The Demented One:

Laughing Wounds Form

Definitely changing the vibe of the style a bit towards the 'crazy' end rather than the 'smutty' end, but I like the virtue-tweaking trick! That's charm-tech worth stealing.

The Demented One:

Insatiable Slave Stamina

Pretty sweet, but seems underpowered in comparison to the Infernal tricks, which are Permanent. I'd remove the WP cost; tacking it in to your Power Up combo is going to cost 6 extra xp anyhow, so this is a pretty expensive trick.

The Demented One:

Ecstatic Tenacity

Fucking brutal. That's awesome. I'd note, however, that it can't protect against attacks that would deal more than (Martial Artist's Health Levels * Essence) health levels of damage, just so it can't shrug of Malfeas' 1,000,000 Lethal Levels chokeslam or the Five Metal Shrike's antithesis cannon.

The Demented One:

Rapture in Chains

Kinky. WP drain is pretty brutal, but clinches from a specialist martial artist are already pretty brutal, and this sort of charm is part of why.

The Demented One:

Groveling Penitence Prana

I presume any charms that permit you to do X 'even if you are clinched' expand your options under the grip of this charm?

The Demented One:

Instructive Punishment Method

Ha ha, this is sweet. "Bitch, please, don't even front."

The Demented One:

Brand of Obedience

Does this ignore ALL soak, or does this ignore 'soak from armor'? Either way, essence ping seems to indicate that it makes soak moot.

The Demented One:

Ravishing the Unworthy Heart

The Servitude effect should involve some sort of physical token you retrieve from the target, even if you don't actually steal the physical heart.

Kukla:

The Demented One:

Ravishing the Unworthy Heart

The Servitude effect should involve some sort of physical token you retrieve from the target, even if you don't actually steal the physical heart.

Seriously, just steal the heart. Are you gonna let Serpentis be cooler than your martial art? Those namby-pamby Setites don't know a damn thing about darkness compared to the Lover.

Ecstatic Tenacity + Starmetal Hearthstone Bracers + Precision of Form Hearthstone =3 (maybe 4, depending on order/rounding) mote perfect soaks, Given that the form charm cancels out the wound penalty you'd get from it.

Seems too strong for CMA, given that attacks that ignore natural soak aren't exactly widespread. I'd make it 3m + WP.  The style has a WP generating charm in it anyway.

maybe drop Ecstatic Tenacity's cost but drop the step to 2?

The Demented One:

That's not a problem with the charm, it's a problem with the stupid hearthstone and the stupid kata bracers. Given that every CMA perfect breaks under that scenario, I'm inclined to just ignore them, and move on.

fuckin' preach it *bomp*

... Guess I have to go hunt down an ST willing to run a game for you and I so I can use this, like I said I would, huh?

Kukla:

Bonus WP should be tactically limited in application in some fashion and probably not permanent, at that point you can stop worrying about this thing opening up self-abuse as a tool for beancounting

I would just say that it can't make you have more temp WP than the permanent WP or maybe permanent WP+1.

Kukla:

This charm seems written under the assumption that wound penalties don't already apply to MDV. I'm pretty sure that wound penalties apply to MDV by default. (yes I know that's dumb.)

I don't find it dump but yes i think that this charm needs a little something.

Kukla:

Definitely changing the vibe of the style a bit towards the 'crazy' end rather than the 'smutty' end, but I like the virtue-tweaking trick! That's charm-tech worth stealing.

I agree, although i think that 1lhl is a little harsh, maybe 1hl? (now that the i don't die trick is killed)

Kukla:

Pretty sweet, but seems underpowered in comparison to the Infernal tricks, which are Permanent. I'd remove the WP cost; tacking it in to your Power Up combo is going to cost 6 extra xp anyhow, so this is a pretty expensive trick.

Why 6 xp? I don't think that it's underpowered, also what WP cost?

Kukla:

Fucking brutal. That's awesome. I'd note, however, that it can't protect against attacks that would deal more than (Martial Artist's Health Levels * Essence) health levels of damage, just so it can't shrug of Malfeas' 1,000,000 Lethal Levels chokeslam or the Five Metal Shrike's antithesis cannon.

Why would you do that?

Kukla:

Kinky. WP drain is pretty brutal, but clinches from a specialist martial artist are already pretty brutal, and this sort of charm is part of why.

I agree, i like this charm and as you said the cliches from a MAist that uses clince charms are already too lethal so this charm doesn't change anything.

Kukla:

I presume any charms that permit you to do X 'even if you are clinched' expand your options under the grip of this charm?

I would also want to hear an answer to this one, also when you say "holds a clinched enemy" you mean that the MAist must have chosen to go with the hold option this action in the clinch?

Kukla:

Ha ha, this is sweet. "Bitch, please, don't even front."

I would also want to hear an answer to this one, also when you say "holds a clinched enemy" you mean that the MAist must have chosen to go with the hold option this turn in the clinch?

Kukla:

Does this ignore ALL soak, or does this ignore 'soak from armor'? Either way, essence ping seems to indicate that it makes soak moot.

I think that it means that it ignores soak from armor, and i think that it needs to be said that this damage can be dropped to zero or maybe to 1 with soak. 

leo1925:

I would just say that it can't make you have more temp WP than the permanent WP or maybe permanent WP+1.